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MacVoices gets an earful about Apple Mail from Joe Kissell

I joined Chuck Joiner on MacVoices in a two-part interview to discuss the fifth edition of my book Take Control of Apple Mail.

In Part 1, I talk about some of the bugs and design flaws in Mail for Catalina.

In Part 2, I stay hydrated while talking about plugins, security issues, and the challenges of email for ordinary users.